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Jan 06, 2012
lisaredfox
Need help with sleep!!!!
My 15 month old is now off meds and no longer puking. He has always been held up after bottles or eating. We are having a big problem with sleep. If we put him down awake he cries for hours, no sleep. Now it's getting so bad that he wants to sleep with one of us all the time. I don't know anyway to stop this. Please help. Thank You Lisa
Jan 07, 2012
lorenzomama
Lorenzo b.4/25/07 1 week in NICU w/ aspirate pneumonia from a reflux episode; diagnosed GERD at 9weeks; Used Zantac for 5months. Currently using Chinese Medicine and Craniosacral Therapy. GERD, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Sensory Processing Disorder. Ask me about breastfeeding a refluxer! Pic: day 5 in the NICU.
Can you provide more information about the situation? What is the bedtime routine? How long does it take him to go to sleep if you are with him? Does he stay asleep once asleep? Is he still napping? If so, when and for how long?
Jan 07, 2012
lisaredfox
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He doesn't fall asleep without a bottle. When his GERD was so bad we had to hold him upright for an hour after eating or bottle. So he gets a bottle at about 9:30 and falls asleep in my hubbys arms. Now he is not sleeping. It takes sometimes until 2 to get him to sleep, via a car ride. We tried puting him to bed awake and he cries and pukes. He only sleeps about 3 hours then starts crying. Dr said let him cry, we did he didn't stop. He naps most day for about 1 to 2 hours at about 2 to 3. He has been on soy insteed of milk for aobut 2 weeks because of RSV. We haven't put him back on milk (no more or less problems on milk did it for being sick). If we put him in bed with me he will sleep but no longer stops moving. He is happy, smiley and active all day. We tried lifting one side of the bed but he turns upside down.
Jan 08, 2012
lorenzomama
Lorenzo b.4/25/07 1 week in NICU w/ aspirate pneumonia from a reflux episode; diagnosed GERD at 9weeks; Used Zantac for 5months. Currently using Chinese Medicine and Craniosacral Therapy. GERD, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Sensory Processing Disorder. Ask me about breastfeeding a refluxer! Pic: day 5 in the NICU.
Just to make sure I understand correctly, this was going on prior to getting sick? For how long? And it sometimes takes more than 4 hours to get him to sleep, and once he is asleep he is an extremely restless sleeper?

How many hours does he sleep out of the average 24 hours? Have you been keeping a sleep journal (if not, I would start)? How is his breathing when he sleeps -- silent, audible, loud, snoring? Do you have a bedtime routine that leads up to the 9:30 bottle? What is it?

Does he have his first set of molars? Have his ears been checked for infection/fluid behind the eardrums?

In my experience, one of the best places to start in trying to work with sleep issues to begin by keeping a sleep journal, so that you can see clearly over the course of a couple of weeks what is happening. Such a journal can also prove invaluable if you need to seek evaluation for sleep problems, as well. (And for what it's worth, it is the rare pediatrician who actually knows much of anything about pediatric sleep problems.) There's a book called "The No Cry Sleep Solution" which has some helpful tips on keeping a journal, as well as some techniques for working with sleeping issues, but be forewarned that if he is still having reflux (and even non-acidic silent reflux can cause problems) , or is having a flare up, there's no sleep techniques that are going to help much with that.

Do you have any intuitive sense or suspicions about what might be going on? It is very important, in my opinion, to listen to those.

Jan 09, 2012
dcd
One question first: why did you take him off the reflux meds?
Jun 13, 2012
mommyof6
A few thoughts. He may be reacting to the soy. It can be highly alergenic or even mildly so. If he needs a bottle I am a big proponent of Neocate. My daughter who had silent reflux used this until she could tolerate solids well and do away with bottle till she was 2 yrs old. #2 based on my ":)" vast experience as a lactation counselor and sleep advisor based on Dr. Weissbluth's Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child and 4 kids and a husband with obstructive and central sleep apnea, i found that for my sensory kids letting them cry did not help but adjusting their sleep schedule and setting up strict routines really did. With that in mind I suggest that as a 15 month old he may do better with midday nap anywhere from 12 - 3 beginning no later then 1. Which would move bedtime up to 8 but could be as early as 7. There is no concrete formula. As Lorenzomama suggests a sleep diary can tell you so much and with that diary you will learn to recogniz tired signs and catch them before he gets into overtired. Overtired state can be very hard to fall asleep in. I guess bottom line that I'm saying is that a child or even adult that has been ill and therefore has had poor or interupted sleep will very possibly need to Re LEarn how to sleep healthy again. I found the book to be a pain in the next to read more a txt book but extremely informative. Good luck
Check with your
doctor first!