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Nov 15, 2010
vigilantmom
Ryan was born May 20th 2008. 9 lbs 2 oz. Ryan’s magic bullet was 30mg of Prevacid capsules mixed with Caracream from Marci-kids (I am forever indebted to the team at Marci-kids), Claratin for the mucos, and Mirlax for the constipation. Within 2 months of this combo he jumped from the 6% to the 50% for weight and continues to climb. Be strong, listen to your instincts. Read his story for more specifics that just might help you too - Karen
Different Formulas
Can someone give me a quick run down on the differences between Neocate, Elecare and Alementum? I have a friend having formula issues and I cant remember the order of these. Ryan never had MSPI issues so this is out of my league.
Nov 15, 2010
zack'smom
Zack born 09/28/07 @ 31 weeks. Dx silent reflux @ 6 mo. Now not so silent. Switched to Elecare @ 9 mo. On Prevacid 15mg 1x daily. Looking to stop the puke and gain some lbs.
Puke stopped about 24 months and he's learning to eat...very slowly.
Still on prevacid and periactin.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive that Neocate and Elecare are comparable..both Hypoallergenic AND Elemental. Alimentium is just hypoallergenic. The elemental formulas are more broken down and easier to digest.
Nov 15, 2010
vigilantmom
Ryan was born May 20th 2008. 9 lbs 2 oz. Ryan’s magic bullet was 30mg of Prevacid capsules mixed with Caracream from Marci-kids (I am forever indebted to the team at Marci-kids), Claratin for the mucos, and Mirlax for the constipation. Within 2 months of this combo he jumped from the 6% to the 50% for weight and continues to climb. Be strong, listen to your instincts. Read his story for more specifics that just might help you too - Karen
Which one is for MSPI kids? Her son has not been tested for MSPI but I suspect it. She had him on Alementum for 3 1/2 weeks and he was extremely fussy and no sleep and blow out diapers. She switched him to him on Enfamil AR now and he has broken out in a rash in the face, which lead me down the path of MSPI. She is going to try to get in to see an allergist for a scratch test of milk, soy, egg and corn.
Nov 15, 2010
vigilantmom
Ryan was born May 20th 2008. 9 lbs 2 oz. Ryan’s magic bullet was 30mg of Prevacid capsules mixed with Caracream from Marci-kids (I am forever indebted to the team at Marci-kids), Claratin for the mucos, and Mirlax for the constipation. Within 2 months of this combo he jumped from the 6% to the 50% for weight and continues to climb. Be strong, listen to your instincts. Read his story for more specifics that just might help you too - Karen
I just saw Jessica's posts on formulas on the below post. I will pass it on.
Nov 15, 2010
kenneyhl
My son Levi is 13 weeks old. We figured out he has reflux @ 2 weeks. We have tried 4 different formuls (Currently Neocate) and he is taking Pepcid, Prevacid, Mylanta, Grip Water
all of them can treat mspi. Some babies has mspi and do fine on either Nutramigen or Alimentum. Neocate and Elecare are elemental formulas so they are completly broken down into amino acids where as Protein Hydrolysed Formulas are composed by incomplete proteins that are partially digested.
Nov 16, 2010
dcd
Yeah, Neocate and Elecare are elemental - completely broken down. Nutramigen and Alimentum are only partially broken down. Most MSPI kids can tolerate Nutramigen or Alimentum, but the very sensitive kids need Neocate or Elecare. All are used to treat MSPI, but what will work for the particular baby depends on the severity of his allergy.

If the powdered Alimentum didn't suit him, she might try the Alimentum ready-to-feed before moving on to the Neocate trial. The ready-to-feed is the only one that doesn't contain corn syrup solids. My daughter turned out to be allergic to both milk and corn. In the end she couldn't even tolerate the ready-to-feed though, her allergy is pretty severe.

Nov 17, 2010
adelines mom
i hated that adeline did not do well on the neocate. it completely stopped her bowels. she did two weeks and two days. she only pooped twice in that time with the help of a suppository. her reflux got worse and she did not urinate much either. i think it was the corn in it. have never given her anything with corn in it before. we switched back to her nestle good start protect plus 2 and things are better. still some problems at night though. i have ordered some peptamen jr. unflavored. thinking about trying to add alittle bit of that.
Nov 19, 2010
bellysmom
isabella was never on elecare or alimentum but went sraight to neocate and is still on neocate JR it provides extra vitamins and minerals for those lost with malabsorbtion also gi impairments
Nov 19, 2010
dcd
Adelines Mom - I am so surprised and stumped to hear about your daughter's reaction to the Neocate! I wonder what that was all about. It shouldn't have been the corn, because the corn protein is completely broken down into amino acids, just like the milk protein. All of the protein chains in elemental formula are broken down so as not to cause reactions.

If she does well on Good Start, I'm betting she has a problem specifically with the *casein* milk protein. (Though that still doesn't explain why she didn't improve on Neocate - since Neocate is completely broken down it should've been very gentle on her system.)

Anyway Good Start is 100% whey protein. You probably already know this, but I didn't, so just in case: milk is made up of whey protein and casein protein. Casein is thought to be harder on the stomach - it forms curds in the GI tract which can cause constipation in some kids. If Adeline is prone to constipation, it would make sense that she would do better on a 100% whey formula. When Nestle markets their "comfort proteins", they are referring to the whey protein, which is thought to be gentle on the stomach.

Good Start is the only 100% whey formula. The whey:casein ratios vary among the formulas; if I'm remembering correctly from back when I did my research, Enfamil is 60/40 whey:casein and Similac is 50/50 whey:casein.

Also, I am betting she does not have a problem with corn because Good Start has corn syrup solids in it just like almost every other formula (unless my memory has completely failed me!) Corn syrup solids are probably listed as the second ingredient on your can. Alimentum Ready-to-Feed is the only formula without corn - it uses tapioca solids instead.

If you are interested, here is some information I found helpful when I was going through what seemed like a never-ending experiment with formulas: http://www.askdrsears.com/html/0/T000100.asp

Check with your
doctor first!