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Oct 29, 2010
tinytanner
VIGILANTMOM - dream feed question
Hi. I wanted to ask you since you mentioned you also had to dreamfeed ryan. When he started to get his reflux under control how where you able to move him to eating while awake. Mason is eating several more oz now and only crys once and awhile during a feeding. I have been trying to at least offer his bottle to him while awake. Sometimes he will take it but fall asleep before it's finished (he will still take the whole bottle but he's sleeps while taking the last bit). He has taken a few bottles in the last week completly awake with minimal fussy at the end but mostly due to the need to burp. But he still takes his first and last bottle of the day sleeping always. Do I just need to continue to offer the bottle while awake so he understands that he can eat while awake? It has been such a dream to get 5oz in him at a time without any fussing! He does spit up a bit more now, mostly clear drool like liquid, and he is reastless at night but hopefully we will work through those side effects with out issue. Thanks so much for your guidance!
Nov 02, 2010
jan gambino
The Reflux Mom
www.refluxmom.com
From Sleep Feeding To Awake Feeding
Hello! I am so glad Mason is mastering awake feeding after sleep feeding. It is certainly a good sign that he is starting to take some feedings while awake. Just let him lead the way and show you when he feels comfortable eating while awake. Some sleep feeders cannot re-learn awake feeding and just wean from sleep feeding to cup drinking/eating solids. I know of a few sleep feeders who transitioned to some awake feeds like Mason. It is so exciting to hear these success stories.It gives other parents hope that their infants will learn to drink while awake too. Please email me privately at refluxmom@gmail.com for a link to a survey on sleep feeding. Thanks! Jan Gambino The Reflux Mom
Nov 03, 2010
vigilantmom
Ryan was born May 20th 2008. 9 lbs 2 oz. Ryan’s magic bullet was 30mg of Prevacid capsules mixed with Caracream from Marci-kids (I am forever indebted to the team at Marci-kids), Claratin for the mucos, and Mirlax for the constipation. Within 2 months of this combo he jumped from the 6% to the 50% for weight and continues to climb. Be strong, listen to your instincts. Read his story for more specifics that just might help you too - Karen
HI!! Soooo sorry I have been so slow to respond. I have been out of touch for awhile. I had some mishaps with Ryan as of late. The boy is going to be the death of me. Hate to tell you this, but just when you get this reflux licked, they really start being boys and a whole other world of mishaps, accidents and gray hairs come into the picture.

Awake feedings definatly took time. I waited until he was feeling really really well. No colds, no teething, and reflux under control. Then I started with the day feedings. I would start with the sleepy but awake feeds and progress to more awake feeds. I always had to read or sing to him first and just have the bottle sitting there in front of him. Once he was relaxed, then I presented the bottle. If he freaked then I put it down and tried again after a few minutes. Once he had the day bottles down, then I tacked the bedtime bottle. That was a harder because he was crabby by the end of the day and more on edge. I kept after it though... books, songs, present bottle. If he freaked out then I went back to books, songs, present bottle. Each night it took less cycles of the books, songs bottles and evenutally I could just do one story and go straight to the bottle. I dont think I mastered the morning bottle as I should have. If I could get him out of bed when he was still a little out of it, he would drain the bottle. If he was wide awake then I could only get about 4 oz in him before he found better things to do.

Remind me again how old your son is. Is he on table food and if so does he have issues with that as well? Ryan had it bad with table food and it was a long process that took the help of a wagon, his sister and the neighborhood little girls. It was a group effort. I wont bore you with the details though if you are not dealing with that.

Congrats on getting a far as you are! That is awesome. He likely will never be one to drink his bottle as you push him in the stroller at the mall like other kids do, but if you can get to the point where you do not have to schedule feedings around when you can put him to sleep, that is a huge victory!!! Karen

Nov 05, 2010
tinytanner
Oh I'm just waiting for the day when he starts just "being a boy"! If he's anything like his dad we have it coming to us! Mason is 5.5 months. He is eating stage one food twice a day and I add rice cereal to his night time food. He loves it! He would much rather eat from a spoon then drink a bottle! We have been doing spoon feedings since about 4mos since we were having so much issues with bottles. That little mouth opens so wide! I read your story about the wagon! You sure have an amayzing drive! Right now the first morning bottle he is groggy and not quite awake. This is his largest bottle of the day he takes a whole 6oz without so much as a wiggle (well there are odd days still). During the day at daycare he will take anywhere from 3-5oz at a time every 3-4 hrs depending on if he's awake or sleepy (no sleeping) when they feed him. Most of the time he falls asleep before the bottle is over but he always takes the whole 5oz if he does. Then at night he takes two more bottles from us sometimes his 6-7pm bottle he will take awake. My hubby just sat down with him the other night and all of a sudden came up to me with an empty bottle almost always at least 4oz. Then it's the bedtime bottle. He sometimes will cry and fight sleep which doesn't help taking a bottle and sometimes we will stick the bottle in his mouth while crying and he'll just drink it all up! Most of the time he is sleeping before I get that last bottle in though and it ends up being a sleep feed. I have told daycare to be sure to offer the bottle while he's awake don't always wait until he's sleepy unless he just throws a complete tantrum. I try to do the same except that first and last bottle. I just don't know if I'll ever get those two to be awake. Like you said right now I think I will try to just concentrate on getting the during the day bottles awake and then tackle the rest. I really like your night time routine. I think now that life is settling down some and Mason has more of a routine daily I will start trying a fixed bedtime routine. Right now it's just cuddling until he settles to sleep and attempts at a bottle. I have also decideded to start him on a starter sippy cup. He already loves to drink water out of our water bottles or cups so I think I will start offering water in a sippy a couple times a day and during spoon feedings to see if we can get him to start some liquids that way. I don't think I will use any kind of juice for sometime though. Too worried about the acid in juice and he just doesn't need it. Thanks! I am very suprised actually that he is already taking some awake. That was more then I expected. It is so wonderful to not go through a world war every 3-4 hrs. It does make me sad though cause he used to eat anywhere! Even in his carseat in the parking lot. Now I am afraid to take him anywhere if he's gonna need a bottle. I hope we are able to get past this. He's always had reflux but the MSPI just totally turned it into a much worse situation. We are flying from SC to MN at christmas and the plane rides and bottle will be interesting! I'll let you know if we make anymore progress! Thanks so much for your help! You have been so great!
Nov 09, 2010
vigilantmom
Ryan was born May 20th 2008. 9 lbs 2 oz. Ryan’s magic bullet was 30mg of Prevacid capsules mixed with Caracream from Marci-kids (I am forever indebted to the team at Marci-kids), Claratin for the mucos, and Mirlax for the constipation. Within 2 months of this combo he jumped from the 6% to the 50% for weight and continues to climb. Be strong, listen to your instincts. Read his story for more specifics that just might help you too - Karen
You have come a long way. Give yourself a big pat on the back for that. Its not an easy road to come back from, but you are doing it... better than you think. Your son might never go back to taking bottles in public, but he will eat and take a sippy in public so long as you dont force the issue. Boy do I remember the days of spoon feeding formula. I would get as much as I could in him via a bottle and what he wouldnt drink I had to pour in a bowl, add cereal and spoon feed it in. It was aweful. Have you used the flow spoon tha is advertised on this site?? While I am thinking of it.... Always always respect the No to food and sippy cups. I did not heed that advice and paid for it with a food adversion. We worked through it, but it would have been nice to have had one less hurtle to overcome.

I totally can relate to your apprehension about traveling. Before Ryan came along, my daughter and I went everywhere. He brought an abrupt end to that. We didnt spend the night any where because he feeding would be even worse. Plus I could be guaranteed that he would have a flare up at every holiday... Those were the dark days though before I found the Caracream and got his reflux under control. However, still to this day I really think twice about going out of town for an overnight. Can we say PTSD??? : )

You have a huge advantage here that Mason is still so young. You have a great chance to turn things around with him before he gets old enough to make strong associations. Ryan was 14 months old before I got his reflux under control. (Yes i was kicking myself for going to the caracream sooner) By then his associations were tough to break. We did it though. Now he eats better than most of his buddies.

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