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Jul 01, 2009
jillsey15
trouble with my 11 month old?
My 11 month old has never been able to sleep for long periods of time without waking up. He only naps for an hour in the morning and an hour in the afternoon...he usually wakes up and I can totally tell he is still tired, but something woke him up. If I hold him, he'll go right back to sleep. He has never slept through the night and actually, between 7-10pm last night, he was up 6 times! Randomly, during the night wakenings, he cries very hard, pushes away from me and throws his head back/arches his back and there is no calming him down. During the day, he is typically a very happy baby! I'm really trying to figure out what is going on with him. I have scheduled a chiropractic appt for him (this evening actually) to see if they have any advise. Dr's just say that's how he is or maybe he's teething. I'm looking for more answers because I just feel that something isn't right. Another thing I just thought of today--like I said he is 11 months old, and he eats 5 oz bottles every 3 hours. Most babies his age that I know are drinking 8 oz bottles. But if I give him 6 oz at a time, he just spits up most of it for the next couple hours. With 5 oz, he rarely spits up. So, I'm wondering if this sounds like acid reflux maybe? Or if anyone has been through a similar situation and what you figured out? Thanks so much in advance!
Jul 01, 2009
jeddsmommy
Jessica, Mommy to Jedd, severe reflux, severe food and oral aversions, Finally G tube free!!! VSD repair 4-24-07 (open heart surgery), hypospadias, repaired 3 times and Ear tubes Visit Jedd at his CB site: www.caringbridge.org/visit/jedd
Have you tried giving him the 6 oz first thing in the morning and waiting longer between feeds to give his belly time to empty more. Just a thought. If you give more fluid then you have to wait longer between feeds.

I wouldn't say it's acid reflux but more likely you need to add time between feeds. But, that said, how much in ounces are you getting into him in a 24 hour period??

If it's low, like really low, then maybe there is some gastric emptying issues. Meaning the belly won't empty fast enough. Gastric emptying issues can be thought to be acid reflux when it is actually a completely different issues. Still under a GIs care and slow motility (slow gastric emptying) can CAUSE acid reflux when it comes up. So, the two go hand in hand.

The night time issue sounds like a behavior issue. Can you try cry it out or a modified CIO method. We did a modified CIO with Jedd. His medical issues would not allow us to do full on CIO. :(

Jul 01, 2009
jillsey15
Yeah, when we tried 6 oz, we waited 4 hours between feedings, so we did increase the time in between. We also have been doing a modified version of the CIO method since he was 5 months old. He is able to self-soothe, as he puts himself to sleep for naps and for bedtime. The middle of the night is just so different. 2 nights ago, we let him cry for 2 hours! He just gets more and more worked up and then there is no calming him down after that. Throughout the day, he drinks 20oz. He also has a 4 oz bottle usually at like midnight. He also has breakfast, lunch and dinner and 2 small snacks. I'm just so stumped as to what is going on with him. I'm afraid I'm missing something and he is going through unnecessary pain. Thanks for the advice.
Jul 01, 2009
jeddsmommy
Jessica, Mommy to Jedd, severe reflux, severe food and oral aversions, Finally G tube free!!! VSD repair 4-24-07 (open heart surgery), hypospadias, repaired 3 times and Ear tubes Visit Jedd at his CB site: www.caringbridge.org/visit/jedd
What kind of formula are you using and when did you start solid foods??

I ask because foods can do some strange things to kids GI systems. If the start of you giving him foods coincides with the night wakings, you may have your answer.

Not sure if a GI would go for it without more of a reason, but a EDG )scope with biopsies) would be a great test to tell you what is going on.

Jul 01, 2009
mommato3
Sounds like a good amount of food you are able to ge in. My son has delayed emptying and we don't get near that much. If we do get 20-24 oz in him (and that is forcing him while he's sleeping) we can't get in any solids and I mean zero. You can hear the milk sloshing etc. Even getting 15 oz of milk and we get very little solids. It is so hard to tell if it is acid reflux or not based on night time stuff. My middle child, no acid reflux, was and still is a horrible sleeper. She would cry for hours if you let her. And my refluxer sleeps pretty good except for his sleep apnea and coughing spells but he is well medicated. Have they ever tried any meds? You could always try some mylanta at night to see if it helps. Also, unfortunately many refluxers are bad sleepers even when they outgrow it b/c they had such poor sleeping habits.
Jul 01, 2009
mommato3
Also, I agree with Jessica about formula, solids, and scope.
Jul 02, 2009
jillsey15
He started solids at 5/6 months. I breastfed for awhile and then switched to Enfamil Lipil--during both those times, he still slept awfully. I actually brought him to the chiropractor last night and low and behold.....he was only up 1 time last night!!!!!!!!!!!! He has only done that 2-3 times throughout his whole life! Now, I don't know if this was a coincidence or not, so I am curious how the next few nights will go. I do have a dr appt for him tomorrow to see if they will give me advice other than "that's just how he is". So we will see! I might try to get a med just to try in case this chiropractor thing was a fluke. Thanks!
Jul 03, 2009
jillsey15
Yeah, I think that night was a fluke as he was up tons of times again last night.... :( DARNIT!!!!! Oh well, on to the next idea I guess...
Jul 03, 2009
mommato3
Sorry last night didn't go so well. Try a med and see if it helps if it does, you know what is going on and I would go see a pediatric GI. They are the best at dosing and figuring out what is going on. If the med doesn't work then you know it may not all be reflux related. Let us know if we can be of any help.
Jul 30, 2009
amy37
Hello Jillsey
Hi! Wow! I cannot believe I found this post! My 11 month old son (who by the way looks very much like your baby) has the SAME exact problems. He is happy as can be all day long. Actually, people (doctors included) do not believe me when I tell them what difficulties we have during the evening hours. Between 8-11pm Ben wakes up almost every hour screaming. There is nothing that calms him down. He does the same exact thing as your little guy...he pushes away and throws his head back/arches, etc...There really is no calming him down. Then, he usually has a burp or two and he crashes out the rest of the night (usually) Every now and then he will wake up at around 3am to do the same thing, but most often it is between 8-11pm. He has been on prevacid since he was about 2 months old. And, he was on nutramigen until about 3 months ago. I switched him to Nestle Extra Gentle and there really is no difference so I have kept him on it. I am emailing you hoping that you will revisit your post. Have you tried anything else? Has it made a difference? You mentioned a chiropractor...how has then been? I did take Ben to see a physical therapist who incorporates holistic approaches in her practice but I have seen little improvement. Tonight I tried a different tactic. I fed Ben a little earlier (at 5pm) and gave him a smaller bottle at 7:30 and then let him play for an hour. I put him down at 8:30 hoping that extra hour will help him digest the formula. we shall see.....so far so good and it is now 9:30. Enough of my rambling on. I hope to hear from you! Thanks!!!!!
Jul 31, 2009
jillsey15
Amy, we did start him on Ranatidine almost a month ago. The 3rd night on the med, he slept completely through the night, from 7pm-6:30am!! He slept really really good for about a week, then he was up a little more frequently, but not NEAR as much as he used to be. We tried increasing his med, as I was told that it is very weight sensitive. But it didn't seem to help much. The dr then wanted to try some allergy meds, so we started him on Zyrtec and he is now sleeping super again! I'm not really sure if Cody actually has allergies or if the Zyrtec is just acting as a sleeping aid....haha...but my plan is to slowly fade out the Zyrtec once he has been in a good sleeping pattern for a few weeks or more. Then we'll see if that good sleeping pattern continues once off the Zyrtec. By the way, very funny that our babies look alike! You should add a pic to your profile so I can see Cody's look-alike! =) Hope your little one slept well last night!!
Aug 07, 2009
amy37
Is renatidine an acid reflux blocker? I have never heard of it. I am glad to hear Cody is sleeping better......there is nothing worse than a screaming baby to deal with all night long. What a relief! I have Ben in a new bedtime routine which really seems to be working. I basically moved all his feedings earlier so his last bottle is at 7:00 and then I wait at least an hour before putting him down. It really seems to be making a difference. We are now on day number 5 of no screaming during those hours between 8 and 11 pm. I would love to post a pic of Ben but I am very computer illiterate and cannot figure out how to do it. Any tips? Thanks and again, congrats on the sleeping!!!!!!
Aug 07, 2009
jillsey15
I made an account on photobucket, uploaded the pic I wanted. On the left side of the page there is a box that says share this image...I copied the direct link code (minus the http:) I just copied the link starting at the // part. Hope this helps!
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