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Jun 23, 2009
How do I do this?
I gave Kody a bottle of neocate on Saturday night and he threw up afterwards and had such a choking spell that he couldn't breath. That was only with a couple ounces. So on Sunday he was having a really bad day and I didn't want to push it with more formula plus I was scared. So I gave him some tonight with splenda in it because he won't take it with my bm in it he gets ticked. Well he almost threw up again. Is this something that is normal when switching? Is it safe to just switch him straight over to formula because he won't take it mixed or should I be doing it gradually? If I do it gradually how will I know if it's working? He's breastfed right now. The gi thought that just pumping would work and giving him only bottles but I'm so stressed already that it's just going to stress me out even more to pump too and feed him with that. I'm just about to have a breakdown as it is. Kody was so uncomfortable last night all night. Spent the night sleeping on me or hubby when he did sleep without fussing in pain. Called gi again today because he had another choking spell which made him not be able to breath and he almost threw up. The gi is out of town again. AAHHH!! So they're getting back with me on what the next step is after talking to another gi. I told them I want testing done but of course none of that will be decided until our doc gets back. Very frustrated, stressed and scared for my boy. He's so miserable and so is our family. I want something to work so when he's almost throwing up on the neocate then I get even more frustrated about it. Sorry so long just trying to do what's best for Kody and needing a shoulder to cry on right now. Don't know how I'm going to do all of this. Need some strength to get through it which is zapped with lack of sleep and starvation. Praying for answers and for things to start improving for us. Thanks for taking the time to read.
Jun 23, 2009
This is our dd, Alessandra. Dx with GER 10/07. Ran the gamut with meds and now done with them (crossed fingers). Using magnesium, probiotics and prebiotic supplements. With the exception of teething and general sassy attitude, all is well now. They really CAN grow out of it!
HUGS!!!! I don't recall if you've discussed this before, but can you thicken his feeds? Either BM or Neocate? There are a lot of different options for that, and it seems to help some with the choking (thin liquid is really a problem with any uncoordinated swallow or aspiration issues) and sometimes with the volume of vomit. We used oatmeal cereal, but there are other things: ThickIt or Simply Thick, and any other number of those products have no calories. Cereal thickening is easy and adds calories. We had a gigantic amount, but she never choked again - we did 3 tsp oatmeal ceral per 1 oz of formula. It was like concrete, but it helped.

Have you tried different bottle/nipple combinations? Many moms here swear by Dr. Brown's, but we did well with the Playtex Natural Latch latex nipples and Drop In system. Latex I know is often a concern, but they can get a better latch on it than silicone.

It's pretty common during a switch for excess fussiness since it takes the system a while to get used to the change, which is why most MD's will recommend gradual, but there are times when cold-turkey is called for (like an allergic response.) We did some switches gradually and others immediately. Just keep in mind you'll probably have some messy diapers to change for a few days with an immediate switch. It's common with switch or food intorduction and generally non-emergency unless dehydration is imminent. Easy way to watch for that is the fontanelles or sunken appearance of the eyes.

Unfortunately, the vomit is kind of a way of life until the LES starts to strengthen or a nissen is performed (if needed.) Time is the biggest help with most vomit issues. My dd was a master vomiter - could hit a wall with force at 8 feet away. As long as there's no FTT, it's mainly a laundry problem. The meds that help are rough, but some get good relief on it. We tried REglan and Allie was just such a screaming banshee on it we had to stop. It only minimized the vomit for about 24 hours then she was back to her usual 10 oz a day on the floor, me, and everything else.

Hope that he'll start behaving for you and you get a break. These kids are just so trial and error that you want to rip your hair out. We're here for you mama!

Jun 24, 2009
Forgot to mention that he's usually a silent refluxer so he rarely vomits. So this was unusual for him. When he gets solids it seems to get worse too so I don't know if thickening would help at all. I just get nervous about the formula making him puke. I don't want to make his system hurt any worse.
Jun 24, 2009
Does anyone know if neocate is suppose to make poop dark green and smelly and gas smelly too? I'm trying to figure out if Kody's reflux being worse, smelly diapers, tummy problems and gas is due to a bug or the formula. I had something earlier in the week and I'm wondering if he's got it now. He's also got a lot of congestion and coughing but that's probably from his croup. He's being completely unbearable the last few days. Not sleeping, not eating very well, refluxing like crazy. It's driving me nuts. Get me out of here!lol
Jun 24, 2009
Hi. Sounds like you're having a real rough ride at the moment, not to mention poor Kody. I'm having some tough days too, some days I just want to give up and not have to deal with this anymore, but hey, who else would look after my son's needs. Take some deep breaths and if you can, just grab some time for yourself, getting out of the house helps a lot, gives me something else to focus on and sometimes something else for my son to focus on apart from his pain. In response to your question about neocate poops! Yes, my son has smelly dark green pasty poop since starting neocate 4 months ago. My son too threw up a lot on this formula, so we started thickening this with Carobel and it stays down pretty well. Sending you a big hug and hope you and Kody get some relief soon.
Jun 26, 2009
Holden threw up more at first and even was getting choked on his Elecare. It is MUCH thinner than Alimentum. We had to thicken it with simply thick and that solved the problem. I never had to thicken my breastmilk though or Alimentum. Neocate and Elecare is so much thinner s it is easier to come up and it also too may be kind of a sensory thing. It is new to his system so he threw it up. Holden is like that with anything new until he gets use to it (tylenol, meds, formula, anything!). He will gag and throw it up. I am so sorry for your frustrations and understand. Big hugs and support sent your way. Keep us updated.
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