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May 25, 2009
reflux?allergies?doc visit tomorrow!
Hello! I am new here, my name is Bianca and I've got an 8 weeker who I think has silent reflux. He feeds CONSTANTLY, he's gaining between 13.5-15.5 oz/week, I can't put him down on his back or give him to daddy because he shrieks until I take him back. I can sometimes get away with a bouncy seat or swing, but my house is a disaster! I've tried taking dairy out of my diet and it definitely helps, he went from projectile vomiting after I ate pizza to "gulp, gulp, slurp" and then arching his neck, leaning backwards and screaming for half an hour or longer a few times a day. I'm afraid that his ped is going to tell me that breastfed babies should feed on demand and there's no such thing as a fat baby. (he eats every half hour or less and trust me he's getting milk!) I am pretty sure his older sister (3.5) had reflux as a baby, she was a projectile vomiter and she screamed constantly. I wore paths in the carpet and seriously considered divorce. No sleep, no showers, no time to myself, we couldn't have company over because she would shriek the second anybody came through the door and wouldn't stop till they left. We tried going out to eat, same thing. Now she has Sensory Processing Disorder including food aversions, she can't handle "wet" textures or mixed consistency/ingredient foods. Her speech therapist (for feeding) told me that many kids with untreated reflux end up with feeding aversions. :( When she was a baby her doc told me "babies spit" and "babies cry" and "she has colic" ..I never knew that taking dairy out of my diet could really help her and that babies who scream themselves into oblivion nightly are HURTING, and I don't want my current baby to have treatable medical problems that are ignored until he has lifelong damage! Anyway, if you guys have suggestions or insight that would be great! Can they even test an 8weeker for allergies? Is it possible that it's just dairy allergy causing reflux symptoms? Thanks!
May 25, 2009
This is our dd, Alessandra. Dx with GER 10/07. Ran the gamut with meds and now done with them (crossed fingers). Using magnesium, probiotics and prebiotic supplements. With the exception of teething and general sassy attitude, all is well now. They really CAN grow out of it!
HUGS mama - welcome to a touch of understanding sanity! Just a thought...eliminating dairy is a good idea to start, but perhaps also eliminating soy as well (the 2 major protein intolerances are milk and soy protein.) And it takes a few weeks to fully get out of your system and out of theirs, so patience is key, though so hard to come by ;-). The Elim Diet is so hard, but can be so worth it.

I doubt that they would allergy test a 2 month old, but if you suspect it, then eliminate it and see what happens.

You've probably heard all this before but here's alist of some things you can try: swaddling, elevation for sleeping and eating (and after eating), asking the MD about meds like a PPI and/or H2 blocker (they usually try Zantac first, but not too many do any better on it - we were worse), trying formula like Nutramigen or Alimentum, or even an elemental formula like Elecare or Neocate, using a sling to save your arms and back, feeding on a schedule as much as possible (this will be necessary to a degree with any PPI's anyway), and so many more things.

These kids are so trial and error that it makes you want to pull your hair our. DO NOT LET ANY MD PUSH YOU AROUND! Just because your baby isn't FTT does NOT mean it's not reflux. It just means there's no feeding aversion...yet. My dd was a comfort feeder and ended up quite a chunker until she started getting mobile. We're here for you - just vent away and ask questions!!!

May 26, 2009
Pictured: G'mom w/3 kids. I'm mom to 1 angel Melissa (dec'd 11/92 - hypoplastic left-heart syn.)
2 healthy daughters (knock wood) Cory (16), Kim (11) & Eric (4) diagnosed with e.e. (scoped 8/08), GERD & severe food/seasonal allergies, asthma. Cried non-stop first 17 mths. of life Found out he is allergic to cow's milk, soy, eggs, and peanuts. Takes Prevacid, Neocate One Plus & Flovent.
I'm glad your looking into every angle early on. Our son also screamed, arched, projectile vomited, but also seemed to want the bottle. Allergies (esp. milk/soy) played a major role, but not one Dr. or Specialist figured it out until he was 17 mths. old (when I insisted we test him & switch to Neocate). He suffered sooooooo much & so did we. El
May 29, 2009
Update-we have a diagnosis!
Hey, thanks for the responses! Her doc "squeeeeezed me in" even though I specifically made an appointment to talk about reflux, not just a well baby visit. Grr. Anyway, he listened to my list of symptoms, nodded his head, asked if reflux runs in the family (I told him about his sister having food aversions and probably having reflux as a baby) and he said "Sounds like he has reflux, we'll start him on Zantac and if he doesn't improve we'll move on to the more powerful stuff. MY baby was a happy spitter, we just added thickener to her formula and she was fine, but your baby is not a happy spitter, soo... (what the?)" I like my kids ped, but I get really annoyed that I am rushed through in 5 minutes, he never has time to talk to me, even if I make a special appt., and he doesn't get breastfeeding. At all. I was trying to explain that I can't nurse him for 5 minutes less because he is DONE in 3 to 5 minutes because I have overactive let-down. Blink. Blink. Do all your kids doctors act like that? Anyway. Been on Zantac since Tuesday night. Seems like he is happier, he let his daddy cuddle him for TWO HOURS on Wednesday night (he doesn't do daddy cuddles, my DH can hold him for about ten minutes before he starts shrieking.) Still doesn't like to be laid down on his back and I can hear him gulping, but he seems like he is doing better. The last two nights he slept all night until 5 in the morning! That's three hours longer than he was doing-wow! I don't really want to pull out the "big guns" unless we absolutely have to-I was told to "feed less, more often" (we do that already) and put him at a 30 degree angle on his RIGHT side (I thought it was the left, am I confused?) I have a nice woven wrap that I use and I'm waiting for him to get big enough for me to use the Mei Tai...those babies are lifesavers sometimes! Wishing I could find my Moby Wrap so I'd have one that's a little more cuddly-like, but it's lost in the abyss. Sigh. Do all of you use sleep positioners/angle your kids' bed? Other than him being congested-sounding in the morning and occasionally gagging/choking in his sleep he doesn't seem to have sleep issues (shocking I know!) Right now he's in an Arms Reach co-sleeper which I adore but I can't see angling it very easily as it's attached to my bed? Thanks so much for the help! I am excited that we have a diagnosis and I feel empowered just knowing that I can help him feel better, know what I mean?
May 29, 2009
That's great news that he's already feeling better. Just be aware that zantac is very weight sensitive so the dose may have to keep being adjusted to get the full effect. I wish I had one of those cosleepers because it would probably make life easier for us but currently we have my son sleeping on us most of the time. We're trying anything to get a good nights sleep. The way I positioned my sons crib was put some pillows under the mattress and then a rolled up quilt in a u shape under the sheets to keep him there. We just recently switched it to the boppy pillow under his bum bum now. I don't know what co-sleeper you have but if it has a mattress try putting something under the mattress to raise it a little. Dairy was a big issue with my son as well so I'm currently dairy free. Also I found out that hidden dairy is in a lot of foods so you think that something doesn't have milk in it and it does. One of my culprits was the butter I used. It's crazy but taking out that little bit of hidden dairy from my diet helped tremendously. Anyway, good luck and hang in there.
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