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Mar 24, 2009
jojo
Child Care Teacher Needs Help :)
I work in childcare...a month ago I got a new baby and he has had lots of stuff going on in his life. I am working with his "Nana" we are trying to get him straightened out...lol. I don't know alot about acid reflux but I do know that something isnt right with this little fellow. He takes his bottle really good. I burp him every ounce, usually he spits up when he burps sometimes it is like he threw up everything he just drank. Then there are times when he doesnt spit up and it seems like all is going good. Most of the time he spits up all day long, I have started keeping a baby blanket handy burp cloths are just to small..lol. Today he threw up all over me, it was brown...I had never seen him do that before so I saved it for his "Nana". He will be 3 months monday. I have printed some info to show "Nana", she thinks he has acid reflux but it is a pain trying to convience the Dr. She recently put him on Soy formula and we started putting rice in his bottles hoping that would help but it doesn't seem like it has. I keep him propped up and have even tried holding him up and he will still spit/throw up. Any suggestions for me? Thanks
Mar 24, 2009
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Hi! I'm also in childcare :) God bless you!

Let me start by saying that sometimes the rice makes it worse esp. if it's earlier than 4-5months. I would take that away and see how he does with the soy. Is "Nana" the mom's mom or the dad's mom? Are the parents in the pic? I was just wondering if Nana is trying to convince mom/dad. I don't know how many kids you have but do you have a swing or a bumbo seat you can put him in. He might be a lil young for the bumbo.

If Nana is the one that deals with the drs, just tell her that from our experience sometimes you have to insist something be done. The dr should start with a couple tests, but if there's lack of insurance or $$ they could trial some meds like zantac or prevacid. Whatever the dr prefers.

The biggest thing until you get the dr on your side is to keep him at least tilted with his head up pretty much all the time. You can prop his bed up somehow and I always laid my changing pad on a pillow so she would never be flat on her back.

Good luck to you and welcome to the forum.

Mar 24, 2009
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Oh and if they have ins. that doesn't require a referral to a specialist, she could just skip the ped and take him to a pedi GI dr.
Mar 24, 2009
jojo
For about a 2 weeks we did just the soy and he would spit up about the same as now....I really don't see much difference. The rice does seem to satisfy him more than just the formula so I guess kinda I do see a difference just not with the spitting up. He doesn't have as much gas with the cereal like he did with just the soy. He was on a different formula but that seemed to hurt his belly. Nana has custody...mom and dad have supervised visits. Right now I just have 2 which is nice cause I can give him a little more attention. Yes Nana deals with the Drs....she is determind to find out what is wrong with this little guy and she is doing a great job. After the episode today she was calling the dr. I do have both...I don't think he could do the bumbo yet, he is strong but still little as for the swing I was afraid the movement might cause him to spit more...but I may try that tomorrow. He use to sleep in his car seat (at day care) but doesn't seem to like that as much so now he sleeps in a bouncy seat. I will mention to Nana about the specialist. Thanks for your help! God bless
Mar 24, 2009
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Well, the situation with the parents isn't good but it's hard when the grandma is trying to convince the mom to do something.

I just meant use the swing sitting still. It's definitely nice that you only have two. You sound very dedicated to your little ones. I hope nana gets somewhere with the doctors. Maybe if she explains that you are seeing what she sees, it'll help. You're around more kids ya know.

Good luck!

Mar 25, 2009
bethe'
Trying everything before surgery.
It is so nice to hear a childcare provider honestly concerned and working with the grandma. When my daughter was a baby I had her in daycare and her teacher was awsome too, she was a great avocate for Ciara. Anyway, her teacher would always make sure to have extra clothes, because Ciara would soak her. Maybe you could try smaller more frequent feedings, that seemed to help. Ciara would sleep in her swing too. Maybe you could write a letter about what is going on so that she could show the ped. the more back up you have the better. I have heard that oatmeal works better than the rice. Keep up what you are doing.
Mar 25, 2009
jojo
Ok I will try the swing not moving...I am going to mention smaller oz more often...right now we are doing 4 oz every 4hrs. Thanks I cant wait to share with nana what I found out. Ya'll have been lots of help! If you think of anything else let me know.
Mar 25, 2009
momma of 2 refluxers
This sounds just like my little guy. I'm happy to hear the cereal has helped him. My little one is much happier with cereal in the bottle however he got diarrhea from it and we had to discontinue it. We put Thick It in his bottle (you can get it relatively cheap at any pharmacy) one teaspoon to every ounce of formula. It helps with the vomiting, you still get spit up but not the entire feeding. I always joke and say I need a rain coat! He really does need medicine!!! Hopefully the doctor will give him some. God Bless you for taking such good care of this baby!!!
Mar 25, 2009
blueleopard
Pictured: G'mom w/3 kids. I'm mom to 1 angel Melissa (dec'd 11/92 - hypoplastic left-heart syn.)
2 healthy daughters (knock wood) Cory (16), Kim (11) & Eric (4) diagnosed with e.e. (scoped 8/08), GERD & severe food/seasonal allergies, asthma. Cried non-stop first 17 mths. of life Found out he is allergic to cow's milk, soy, eggs, and peanuts. Takes Prevacid, Neocate One Plus & Flovent.
I would inquire about the possibility of a milk/soy allergy or intolerance. Does the mother or father have any type of allergy (even seasonal), asthma, or eczema. This would increase the baby's risk for food allergy. Have they tried a hypoallergenic formula such as Nutramagin. My son was/is allergic to milk & soy. He did better on Nutramagin, but it took a prescription formula (Neocate) to really "fix" the problem. If this is the problem, all the zantac/Prevacid in the world won't help. Just a thought/possibility. Good Luck, Ellen
Mar 25, 2009
zack'smom
Zack born 09/28/07 @ 31 weeks. Dx silent reflux @ 6 mo. Now not so silent. Switched to Elecare @ 9 mo. On Prevacid 15mg 1x daily. Looking to stop the puke and gain some lbs.
Puke stopped about 24 months and he's learning to eat...very slowly.
Still on prevacid and periactin.
I put up with this (because I didnt' know it wasn't normal) until about 4 months...then I did a ton of researcha dn found this site and others. I took a checklist I found on one site about the symptoms of GERD. Out of 12, my child had 10 of them. He refused to eat though..he didn't start puking until he was about 8 or 9 months (and it hasn't stopped yet at 18 months)..My advice is to be a HUGE PITA for the pedi. She finally shut me up with Prevacid and I had a new baby. In this baby's case, however the Prevacid will not stop the puke...only the damage that puking acid does. The puke he will probably grow out of (although I'm still waiting)...most babies do by 6 months or so. GOOD LUCK!
Mar 25, 2009
isobel'smamma
Sara, Mom to Isobel 10/01/08 Dx Silent reflux @ 6 wks. Prevacid 22.5mg split in 2 doses. Pepcid .5ml twice a day. Diagnostically confirmed milk protein, egg and cat allergy. Suspected corn, pea and squash allergy. Trialed Alimentum and Elecare without success, currently on Isomil Advance RTF with moderate success. Barium Swallow and UGI 3/08 Pondering a ph probe and endoscopy.
About the Bumbo- it's really dangerous. Once babies get strong enough they flip themselves out of it. I was tempted to get one until I researched and saw how many babies have fractured their skulls when mom turned her back for a second. BeBe pod has the same type of issues. Just putting it out there.
Mar 25, 2009
jojo
today we did 3oz every 3 hrs before we were doing 4oz every 4hrs. he did great all day..spit up a little but nothing bad until after i left i got a text that he threw up like yesterday and the day before. its strange it seems to be really bad around the same time...does that sound like anything anyone has faced? i am going to mention the oatmeal...didnt want to overwhelm nana this morning...she cried on me...she is doing a great job but i know all this can be frusterating. i hugged her and told her what a good job she is doing. thanks to all of your help! i love my babies and i love my job! i feel like a grandmother at 33, i get to spoil them and send them home..lol but i also go home and worry about them and have withdrawls on the weekend.
Mar 25, 2009
jojo
Is THICK IT a prescription or over the counter? I don't mind the spitting up that usually comes with a baby but I don't like him throwing up everyday that doesn't seem healthy. Nana said she brought extra clothes for him and asked if she needed to provide me with some too...lol...she is great. Thanks for your kind words.
Mar 25, 2009
jojo
I don't know anything about the parents. The baby is on Soy but I am going to mention about changing formula again. Thanks!
Mar 25, 2009
momma of 2 refluxers
Thick it is over the counter. Just ask the pharmacist sometimes it's behind the counter but for sale for everyone. You will want to add it so the baby gets enough in to gain weight. We originally thought it was just a laundry probuntil his 2 mth check up when he was diagnosed "not thriving". It basically helps what they call splash over, which means makes it thick enough to stay down after burps and refluxing sessions. My little one also is allergic which caused long unconsolable screaming. Once changed to Nutramigen was much better.
Mar 25, 2009
jojo
Thanks I am going to mention it to nana hopefully tomorrow...i think she is a little overwhelmed. Thanks again!
Mar 25, 2009
bethe'
Trying everything before surgery.
Does the grandma have internet? You tell her about this support here. I know that she will be glad to talk to people who know what she is going through.
Mar 26, 2009
jojo
This is so weird....for 2 days, the baby has done great in my care only spitting up a little I leave work and get a text that he has threw up. WHY? I don't understand...could it be worse at times? It seems to happen between 3-4pm. I am changing my schedule at work so hopefully that will help the little fellow. If you have any experience or any advice I would greatly appreciate it :) Nana called the dr today and is wanting him to get checked for acid reflux. Thanks for all your help!
Mar 27, 2009
momma of 2 refluxers
I've noticed with both of my children that they do have issues around the same time everyday. Does he throw up once he gets put in his carseat? My son always has issues once he is put in that position, it really seems to aggreviate the ruflux. Stress can also aggreviate the reflux.
Mar 27, 2009
momma of 2 refluxers
I think he might be attached to you! : )
Mar 27, 2009
jojo
Nana took him to the Dr today and they said he has a virus.... I don't agree with it but we will see how he is on monday. Ok I was beginning to wonder if that may be the case...cause it happens around the sametime. No he just spits up. Usually when he throws up he is being held. Would it be better to sit him up after he eats instead of holding him? I also wondered about stress making it worse....he sees his parents a couple times a week and nana says he gets stressed when he sees them. Yeah I think he is...yesterday he was crying when he came in I got him out of his carseat and he stopped and went to sleep. I love him and I think he knows it.
Mar 29, 2009
momma of 2 refluxers
I hold my little one after he eats but I keep him straight up and down on my shoulder. (Does that make sense?) If I have to put him down to care for my 2 year old I put him in a papasian seat (it has a 30 degree angle to it). I put him in it where he is strapped in but can basically stand. These babies stand and arch because that is their way of trying to tighten the muscle at the top of their stomach which should be what keeps the food down but basically it's too immature in these little ones to function correctly. Once they start eating thicker foods (around 9 months) their food and acid are able to stay in their tummy's. My 2 year old also had reflux. I don't think he has a virus either he sounds like he has reflux. Did Nana use the key words of crying and spitting up a lot after feedings and arching his back?
Check with your
doctor first!