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Mar 20, 2009
allisondorst
HELP..9 weeks and uncontrollable crying after every feeding
I am looking for any help/advice that you can give to me. My son is 9 weeks old and he had not had any problems until last Sunday when he started screaming in pain out of nowhere and it took an hour to console him. Monday he did the same thing, only once per day crazy crying/whaling and could not console him. As the week went on, it has gotten worse. Now he screams about 2 hours after every feeding, puts his head back and the only thing that will help after 20 minutes or so is to hold him straight up on my chest. I tried to lay him down to change his diaper and he started screaming again. I called the doc and she put him on 1ml of Zantac (3 x day). He has been on it for 24 hours and I have not seen an improvement. He cries with the same intensity as if he is getting a shot. It is so painful to watch. Any advice you can give is greatly appreciated. He cries after every feeding.
Mar 20, 2009
slimfast13
This is our dd, Alessandra. Dx with GER 10/07. Ran the gamut with meds and now done with them (crossed fingers). Using magnesium, probiotics and prebiotic supplements. With the exception of teething and general sassy attitude, all is well now. They really CAN grow out of it!
Welcome, mam. We've all been there, so you're among friends here! Meds take some time to work, so give it a few more days. Zantac is very weight sensitive as well, so if he in a fast gainer, make sure you get the meds adjusted accordingly.

Many times, Zantac isn't enough for these little ones. My dd was diagnosed mild GERD and needed both an H2 blocker (we tried Zantac, Axid, and had the best luck on Pepcid) as well as a PPI (we tried Prilosec with no luck and did very well on Prevacid.) You're doing the right thing by holding him up - usually 30 min or so after a feeding is recommended. Many mamas use slings to save their arms and backs - we used the Snugli. Unfortunately it's tough not to lay them down for a diaper change, but I would sometimes change her inclined - used a big couch pillow for the REALLY bad days.

Some tips - Ask about using a PPI instead of or in addition to the Zantac, ask about using Maalox or Mylanta for "breakthrough pain," inclining the bed (there are slings available - Tucker or AR pillow) though most of us just bolstered the mattress pr used a swing/bouncy seat that was inclined, gently burping every few minutes of feeding, doing a small amount/more frequent feeding schedule (at 9 weeks, we were doing 3 oz/2-3 hours)...etc...etc

You'll get some great advice here. Has he had any testing or is there any scheduled? Have you talked to your ped about referral to a ped GE? Is he a formula or BF baby? If formula, ask about maybe switching to a hypoallergenic formula (Alimentum or Nutramigen) or if allergies are possible, Neocate or Elecare. If BF, elimination diets can sometimes help a lot. HTH - gotta run due to my own dd screaming her head off, though this time it's over a broken toy!

Mar 20, 2009
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Hi! Alessandra gave you lots of info :) I just wanted to say until you find the right med, formula/breastmilk combo--it really does help to keep them as upright as possible. You've figured that out already it seems. We always propped our changing pad up on a couple pillows so Mags was never truly flat on her back.

I don't really like passing this but talk to your ped about tummy sleeping IF he's having trouble sleeping. We started out doing that for naps and it helped with an elevated mattress. I read in a book that tummy sleeping helps reflux babies. Like I said though--talk to your ped.

If you're breastfeeding, you can go to the home page of this site and look in the "reading room". There is an elimination diet there. There's things that aggravate reflux that you would never dream of. My lil one was worse if I drank milk or ate yogurt. Once I cut those out, got her meds right, and elevated her bed-we were doing pretty good.

We used zantac efferdose tablets with Mags. The syrup is yucky tasting and it does have to be upped pretty often to keep up with the weight of the baby. The efferdose tabs are a little higher dose and don'thave to be upped as much.

I also recommend asking the dr about tests. An upper GI will rule out physical abnormalities in the throat and a pH probe will tell them how much acid is in the fluids being refluxed.

Did anyone tell you to hold him up as long as possible after feedings? At bedtime I tried to hold Mags at least 10mins, but I think they recommend 30. That was just way too long for me :)

We're here for you! You can ask ? or just vent. The first weeks are the worst bc you're trying to figure out what works for your lil one. It is diff for every one. Once you get the combination worked out for him, it will get better.

Mar 21, 2009
allisondorst
more questions...
I just came back from the doctor. It was not my normal doc since it was the weekend and she was quick to say that it is no reflux and that i am overfeeding him.My normal doc thought that it is reflux, but this doc said that since he is not fussy when he east that it cannot be reflux. She said that he is just fussy and it is probably gas. I am convinced that it is not gas b/che has has all of the the time and he does the uncomfortable grunting and winpering, but he does not whale/crying like he has been and refusing to lay down. I have Patrick on Alimentum-he has been on that since I stopped breastfeeding at 4weeks. The doc was quick to dismiss me and say that he is just fussy, but I was persistent and asked for other med suggestions(ideas from moms on this site) The doc gave me a prescription of Prevacid and Axid,but when I went to the pharmacy, the pharmacist said that they do the same thing and since the doc upped the dose of Zantac to 1.2ml, I should try that for a few days first. Asked docabout Maalox and she said that I cannot give that to him. The doc referred me to a ped GI,but said that it will probably take a month to get an appointment. My question is: since he is not refusing to eat/uncomfortable when he eats,does that mean that he cannot have reflux?
Mar 21, 2009
isaacs mummy
Mother of 4 children. 3 girls, youngest baby boy 30/08/08. Dx silent reflux at 3 months. On Gaviscon and just trying zantac and domperidone. Thought Isaac was finished with reflux at 5 months, had a couple of weeks free it then came back with a vengeance...........
Welcome.... I found the refusing the bottle was one of the last symptoms. Also babies can comfort drink and over feed as this can give short term relief, they then pay for it after they feed. Does he drink to much? is he phooing enough for the amount of milk he is taking........... just some thoughts. good luck. keep us posted....
Mar 21, 2009
isobel'smamma
Sara, Mom to Isobel 10/01/08 Dx Silent reflux @ 6 wks. Prevacid 22.5mg split in 2 doses. Pepcid .5ml twice a day. Diagnostically confirmed milk protein, egg and cat allergy. Suspected corn, pea and squash allergy. Trialed Alimentum and Elecare without success, currently on Isomil Advance RTF with moderate success. Barium Swallow and UGI 3/08 Pondering a ph probe and endoscopy.
Yeah, I got the "she eats therefor there is no problem" lecture before too. My girl used to comfort feed. Now she only drinks half what she ought to. Listen to your gut- you know your child like no one else on earth!
Mar 21, 2009
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
You're getting hogwash that a lot of moms get. Beg to get a quick GI appt. Try the zantac dose until then unless it's too long. I can't believe a doc would prescribe prevacid if they don't even believe the baby has reflux. That's crazy.

The GI will get it straight for you :) Hugs!

Mar 22, 2009
slimfast13
This is our dd, Alessandra. Dx with GER 10/07. Ran the gamut with meds and now done with them (crossed fingers). Using magnesium, probiotics and prebiotic supplements. With the exception of teething and general sassy attitude, all is well now. They really CAN grow out of it!
There's something that many reflux kids do, that even a lot of adults with reflux do - it's called "comfort feeding." My dd did this - at 2 weeks old, she wanted upwards of 30 oz/day, which was a key symptom, since she had no others besides screaming at that point. Not all reflux kids are FTT - mine gained weight too quickly. I guess try the Zantac first, but make sure that you keep those RX's for the others. And it's alos hogwash about the Maalox - we used it from 3 weeks on.

Some tips about the meds - if you switch to Prevacid, in order for it to work it MUST be given on an empty stomach. Try at least an hour, preferably 2 since last feeding and wait at LEAST 15 min before feeding again. Axid and Zantac can be given anytime, though make sure they're given at least 2 hours separated from the Prevacid.

So many moms get this crapola - listen to yourself. Something isn't right, so unless the MD wants to spend an entire day and night with your lo, they'd better learn to listen to you. Push for that GE visit - if the doc's office calls, then you can usually get in sooner. HTH!

Mar 24, 2009
mommy2k
I just wanted to say hang in there. Definitely try to get a GI appt. Some peds don't always want to mess with the doses and are real conservative. I think listening to your gut is the key here. I've gotten that whole your baby is fine speech from my family members because they aren't around for feedings. I'm going through similar stuff with my ds having pain and now waiting about 3 weeks until gi appt. I wish you all the best. I hope that you get it all worked out to make your little one feel better.
Mar 30, 2009
tamaraann1978
Hello & welcome. I'm a newbie here too (just about a wk now) & must say everyone on here is wonderful & so supportive. Our 2 month old was diagnosed at about a month old. He was fine but out of nowhere started arching his back (so bad it popped one night), legs got all tight (like a severe muscle spasm) & started flailing his arms, pulling his legs to his chest, etc. Hunter then started crying during feedings...this all went on throughout feedings & up to 45 min after...every time. Dr put him on Prilosec (2.5 ML) but on Friday added AXID (1 ML) & I think the added Axid plus a change in formula to Similac RS has maybe turned the tide. It's only been 4 days, so not sure yet. But our pedi doesn't want to do a GI until we've exhausted every other option, so HANG IN THERE if you hear that! Also, do try holding him upright as long as possible after feedings-we do it for at least 30 min. Our AR pillow came on Friday & after using it I would recommend just elevating his bed or something. We've had issues with it & at $60, it can be a pricey experiment. One thing I do you might consider...b/c Hunter gets worse at night w/ his spasms, I prop him up with 2 firm pillows behind his back, put his Boppy feeding pillow upside down underneath him (so the curved part is at his feet & the open part at his head) so he can't slide down...this gives him the elevation but allows him to be swaddled at the same time. But I have him in bed next to me in the spare room so I can watch him & make sure he's ok when I do this (not sleeping anyway & it seems to really help him sleep). Also, are you swaddling your baby? With the flailing & stuff, this has really helped ours. Hope you get some sleep & hope your little one gets better soon!
Mar 30, 2009
tamaraann1978
Oh, one more thing...do try to hang in there when you get that "your baby is fine" thing...we have some friends who did that & it was SO frustrating! She just laughed when I told her what he was doing. Ours was way overeating at the beginning too-up to 7 ounces at 1 month old which of course we know now was b/c he was trying to soothe his little throat...and if yours sounds congested or stuffy when he breathes or snores, that's all signs of reflux too (all things ours does but we had no idea). Good luck & hang in there!
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doctor first!