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Nov 25, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
breastfeeding help
Hi everyone

For those of you who breastfeed or did... What did you do to help increase your supply? I pump 2times a day. Once first thing in the am (around 7:30) and then at 9:30 pm. Joslyn gets two bottles a day (7 am and 9:30 pm) I have been pumping the 9:30 feeding for about 3 weeks now. I can only get 2-3 ounces (3 ounces is really pushing it.) But last night I pumped 2ounces.

Her pedi suggested we give her a bottle since her last feeding was really hard. She said that as lon as I pump 3 ounces that was fine. But if I pumped less then my late night supply is low.

This mornign I only pumped about 6 to 6.5 ounces. (I can normally get 7-8 ounces.) I have been slowly going down there too.

Joslyn is not showing any signs that my supply is bad. She still eats her normal times and when she is done she is done! She will sit right up when finished. She will then last the full 3 hours til her next feeding.

What did you do to help your supply. I have seen Fenugreek herbal helps.. but we are nervous about herbals. I drink A FREAKIN TON OF WATER every day. I have tried pumping after each feeding (did that yesterday) and I pumped the least amount so far last night and then this morning.

What do I do?

Thanks

Jacky

Nov 25, 2008
amber f
The only thing I thought of was try to bf her on one side and pump on the the other. I had a lot of supply problems when I was bfing Nolan and when I went back to work after the older two. You lose the emotional let down of the milk with a pump. At least that is what i found to happen. Good luck. You have been doing an awesome job so far and if you have to give one bottle of formula know that it isn't a defeat. I know how hard it can be to give formula. Hang in there.
Nov 25, 2008
mom2halleyann
Donnessa, mom to Halley born 3/10/07
Reflux (mostly) resolved at 14 months
and Addison born 8/17/09. Currently exclusively bf and on 7.5mg Prevacid
There are a couple of things that you can do to get your supply up. One is to pump more often. Since it's all about supply and demand, your body will automatically adjust. I tried the fenugreek as well, with some success. Be prepared to smell like maple syrup. You may want to get in touch with your local la leche league rep to see if there is anything that they can do to help. good luck!
Nov 25, 2008
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
My supply dwindled when Mags was 8mos. I gave blessed thistle and fenugreek a shot. I think it helped, but I was kind of ready to give up :( so I did. I've also heard that REAL oatmeal will help and like you said lots of water.

The herbs are a lot. I was taking 16 fenugreek a day!

Check out kellymom.com

Nov 25, 2008
kubicki5
Julie - I have three children. My youngest Katie is my refluxer. My first Ben was very colicy and is ADHD. My middle Jakob is pretty easy going. Katie had it bad as a baby no sleep for two years. She was on Nutramagin, Prevacid and Zantac. Thought we were through it but after age three it came back big time. After her scope she was put on Prevacid 45mg a day and mylanta as needed. Scope was in Sept. Showed damage in stomach and espophogus. It took about 7 months of medication and Reflux diet for her to start feeling better.
I was also thinking to pump more often.
Nov 25, 2008
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Yeah, Donnessa is right, lol. You will smell like maple syrup as funny as that sounds.
Nov 25, 2008
ethan's mom
Meridith
Mom to Ethan, born 4/23/08. Diagnosed with Reflux at about 1 month, started medicating with Zantac, which wasn't helpful for us. At about 2.5 months, we started on Prevacid, twice a day, and that is working much better.
Ethan is breastfed and has a few solids that he is enjoying very much.
I had a low supply time right after coming back from California, and I knew it because Ethan was so fussy trying to eat (a different cry than reflux crying). I used the fenugreek, 8 or so a day, fed every two hours, and ate real oatmeal. I made oatmeal cookies.
I have also read that dark beer can increase supply, but I haven't seen it on a reputable sight like kellymom or anything, so I'm not so sure about that. Besides, how much beer can you really drink while nursing.
If it helps, I can rarely get more than 3 ounces with the pump, and have never gotten more than 6, but Ethan continues to gain.
Maybe it would help to pump again at night, just to keep production up. My thinking is that maybe your body is thinking that you aren't going to need the milk overnight, so it goes into shutdown mode early. Who knows?
Nov 25, 2008
emibug
Kathryn, Pager Volunteer and mommy to Emily Mia 02/04/07. 3 years old with GERD. 30mg Prevacid and Pepcid AC. Mylanta needed for flares. Failed prilosec med switch. Tried and failed many med weans but GERD and pain are well controlled. Functional constipation. Reoccurring SBBO. Suspected IBD or autoimmune disease. Resolved issues: MSPI, CSID (acquired), Stage 2 kidney reflux, Chronic diarrhea.
Audrey Meadow 06/20/08. born 34/35 weeks. Still b/f and eats everything! ftt and chronic constipation.
does she normally just eat less at night? audrey is a night eater and can not pay the girl to eat during the day, so my supply is low during the day. i was told that if she normally dosen't eat during the day then my body is kind of in tune with that and will just make more milk per the feedings that she does take (does that make sense??) i was also told that any changes you make to make your supply more plentiful take a few days to kick in. so i would keep with the pumping after each feeding. or offer her the breast (even if she is not hungry) b/c her suckling will send signals to produce more milk too. i read on a couple breast feeding site that excess water dosen't necessarily help with supply and beer/wine dosen't increase supply either (darn right? lol)
Nov 25, 2008
seamus mama
Seamus was diagnosed with Silent Reflux at 3 weeks. Now he is 14 months, on Prilosec and avoiding dairy,soy,egg. Still nursing. A lot !!!
I used herbs, nutrition, and pumping..I went to a holistic practioner and a lactation consultant who both helped me out. There are herbs which are totally safe for you to consume while nursing."Galactogogue" herbs help increase a low milk supply. Yes, fenugreek is used..Also,milk thistle, fennel, marshmallow, vervain, and stinging nettle are effective.BUT fennel helps relax the LES so it is not good for reflux babies. Marshmallow, on the other hand, is wonderful for our refluxers because it coats the esophagus and stomach lining with a slippery mucus like substance which helps calm the burn and prevent ulcers. I LOVE MARSHMALLOW! There are herbs which can decrease your milk supply, like peppermint and parsley. Food wise, grains such as barley,oats, and whole grain rice are recommended. I put powdered marshmallow root and maple syrup on my whole grain porridge every AM and it was tasty! Dark green veggies and like you said, lots of fluids are great. I think its good to get skin to skin contact as much as possible..Hope this helps..happy nursing!
Nov 25, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
thanks everyone

I will try the oatmeal thing. I found lactation cookie recipe... it is oatmeal cookies and stuff. I read about the maple syrup... that's funny how the herb will do that.

The pumping after each feeding... I know it should produce more... but why am I pumping less now? Maybe just a coincidence. I will prob start pumping again. I have stopped doing it after each feeding today.

One of DH's family members was RX'ed one dark beer a day for her lactation and reglan. I am not gonna do the reglan.... and I am not sure if beer has been proven to work either.

Meridith: I pump once at night (9:30 pm) and she sleeps all night. I don't know if I should wake up just to pump early morning. It does help knowing that is what you pump too. Joslyn doe snot get upset at all. Sometimes I even have to wake her during the day to eat. She really doe snot cry for food until she sees me getting ready. She has always been that way. When she was rushed to Children's of ATL (3 days old) she skipped 2 feedings (due to tests) and she was not crying at all. I finally had to tell them that I needed a pump since my milk came in the night before and she had skipped 2 feedings and I was engorged. To be honest I think she could have cared less about eating then too!

Her pedi thinks she eats less at night.... She eats at 7 pm and gets another 4 ounces of solids. Then at 9:30 she will eat again. So we think that she may not be as hungry then. We are thinking about giving her solid dinner at her 4 pm feeding. We will prob start that on Turkey Day (Thursday). So, Kathryn... it does make sense. That is what we were told too. I guess since it could take a few days to kick in I will restart the pumping thing after each feeding..... extra dishes here we come! hehe.

Thanks for your help!

Jacky

Nov 29, 2008
lorenzomama
Lorenzo b.4/25/07 1 week in NICU w/ aspirate pneumonia from a reflux episode; diagnosed GERD at 9weeks; Used Zantac for 5months. Currently using Chinese Medicine and Craniosacral Therapy. GERD, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Sensory Processing Disorder. Ask me about breastfeeding a refluxer! Pic: day 5 in the NICU.
Hey, sorry I'm so late to respond to this -- I was out of town. One thing to keep in mind is that, after about 6 months, babies become extremely efficient at sucking at the breast, much more efficient than any pump is, so it is not at all unusual to provide plenty of milk to an actual baby, but barely be able to pump anything. As a case in point, I haven't been able to pump more than a few ounces at a time for many months, but Lorenzo has been doing quite well exclusively breastfeeding into toddlerhood, to the amazement of his GI. I am fortunate to produce very high fat milk (everyone's is different, and it can be very different with different babies, even), but, as I said, if I gauged my production by what I could pump, I would have to assume he was surviving on air...
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