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Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
foremilk/hindmilk imbalance?
Has any bfing moms had this? We think this is what is causing Joslyn to be poor weight gain. I am in talks with a LLL consultant... have you experienced this????????? I am so lost! **Jacky
Sep 30, 2008
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
No, sorry. I'm interested though. I'm glad you're talking to LLL. Fill us in when you find out something!
Sep 30, 2008
ethan's mom
Meridith, mom to Ethan born 4/23/08. Ethan was diagnosed with reflux at about 1 month. He has been on Zantac (unsuccessful) and Prevacid. He is currently taking 7.5 mg of Prevacid 2x per day, with good results. We also suspect MPI, though this hasn't been confirmed by a doctor yet.
Ethan is mostly breastfed, though we are doing one bottle of soy formula each day. We also do some homeade "solids' including, so far pears, avocado, sweet potato, and peaches.
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I have heard of this, but I am by no means an expert. What I have heard is that if an exclusively b'fed baby has green foamy poops that they are getting too much foremilk, but if poop is yellowish and curdly they have the right balance. This I think would be for the majority of bowel movements. So if every once in a while there is a green one, it is no big deal, but if the majority are that way, there may be a problem.
The one thing I don't know is how Prevacid effects the color of poop. I seem to remember Ethan's color changing with Prevacid, but that may not be entirely accurate.
Hope that helps.
Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
sh eis off prevacid.. has been for a week. she has green frothy poopy.... some are normal but majority are frothy. Not green all the time... some are tan and frothy.... one the other day was normal (seedy)
Sep 30, 2008
ethan's mom
Meridith, mom to Ethan born 4/23/08. Ethan was diagnosed with reflux at about 1 month. He has been on Zantac (unsuccessful) and Prevacid. He is currently taking 7.5 mg of Prevacid 2x per day, with good results. We also suspect MPI, though this hasn't been confirmed by a doctor yet.
Ethan is mostly breastfed, though we are doing one bottle of soy formula each day. We also do some homeade "solids' including, so far pears, avocado, sweet potato, and peaches.
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We experienced the green frothy's for a while, and that was when I worked on fixing an overactive let-down. It seemed to help some, though we tried so many things, sometimes a couple of things at once, so I'm not sure how much of the total problem that was.
I decided to try to correct the overactive letdown, which could be leading the the imbalance, because it was the easiest thing to correct. The next option was more/different medicine, and extreme diet changes for me. Hopefully you can find an answer with correcting that problem. It is definitely worth trying, in my opinion.
Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
I guess an over active let down is pretty much the foremilk/hindmilk imbalance. What did you do again to correct it? We are going to try to add cereal to joslyn's morning bottle to thicken it up so she is not "nervous" about the thicker hindmilk..... who knows.....
Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
see this link: http://www.llli.org/FAQ/oversupply.html
Sep 30, 2008
maiam
maia m - GERD. Nissen Fundoplication w/hiatal hernia repair.
Mom to
Son (10) GERD(aspiration pneumonias, apnea, tracheomalacia), Food allergy, Asthma
Daughter (6) GERD, Heart Murmur, Food Allergy, Asthma, Mold allergy
There is a lot of good info on Kellymom.com about foremilk/hindmilk. I had to nurse my daughter on one side for several hours, so she got all the hindmilk too, not just too much foremilk.
Sep 30, 2008
ethan's mom
Meridith, mom to Ethan born 4/23/08. Ethan was diagnosed with reflux at about 1 month. He has been on Zantac (unsuccessful) and Prevacid. He is currently taking 7.5 mg of Prevacid 2x per day, with good results. We also suspect MPI, though this hasn't been confirmed by a doctor yet.
Ethan is mostly breastfed, though we are doing one bottle of soy formula each day. We also do some homeade "solids' including, so far pears, avocado, sweet potato, and peaches.
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When we were trying to deal with this, I would nurse on one side two-three times in a row, then switch to the other side, and nurse on that one two or three times in a row. Over time, this somewhat decreases supply, but only enough so that the let-down is not so strong.
I guess the thought is that the longer the milk is in the breast, the less fatty it becomes, thus thinner. The thinner causes the let-down to be strong, causing excess gassiness, amongst other things. So if you were to nurse on the same side a couple of times in a row, it would get the milk production regulated to only produce the correct amount for her needs.
This all comes from the LLL website, so you have probably already read it, but I think it helped us with the part of Ethan's situation that wasn't MPI.
Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
thank you.... the problem with Joslyn is she will only nurse for 4-5 mins each side. I can not let her nurse on one side since she pulls off soooo quickly. I do not know if she does not like the hindmilk, if it hurts her tummy, if she is lactose intolerant, reflux, or all of the above. She will pull off and scream..... when I offer the second breast (after 4-5 mins on the first one) she attacks the newly offered breast like a monster! We are trying soo many different things.... it is just so hard. breastmilk should just be breastmilk!!!!!
Sep 30, 2008
lorenzomama
Lorenzo b.4/25/07 1 week in NICU w/ aspirate pneumonia from a reflux episode; diagnosed GERD at 9weeks; Used Zantac for 5months. Currently using Chinese Medicine and Craniosacral Therapy. GERD, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Sensory Processing Disorder. Ask me about breastfeeding a refluxer! Pic: day 5 in the NICU.
We dealt with this, and for us, the thing that worked best was to breastfeed on one side only at each feeding (sometimes two or more feedings depending on how far apart they were -- dh nursed very frequently and for short periods of time). I would also hand express a small amount of milk into a cloth or cup before each nursing session because otherwise the over active letdown would cause him to cough and choke trying to keep up. In spit of all of that, we continued to have the green frothy poops (in excess of 10 times per day, mind you...) until I eliminated dairy products from both of our diets.

If you haven't already done so, the LLL mother to mother forum is an excellent way to get advice from both LLL Leaders and other mothers, and to hear lots of different experiences with various aspects of breastfeeding and parenting. I hope you find answers that work for you two :)

Sep 30, 2008
katiesmommy
Tracey, mom to Katie. Diagnosed with reflux at 3 weeks and put on Zantac. At 8 months old she was removed from Zantac as it was giving her migraines, currently on Prevacid. Switched to Elecare since she is not gaining weight; trialing solids after being off for a month. Geneticist said reason she isn't gaining weight is she is stubborn. Upcoming appts.: Neurologist for developmental delay and EGD scheduled for September. She is one funny baby!
Does she react the same way to the morning pumped milk? Katie couldn't latch so we always had to pump and I have a very weak let down so even if she could latch on she wouldn't have been blasted with milk.
Sep 30, 2008
stickybean
I am Jacky, mommy to Joslyn Olivia (April 2008) and Katelyn Isabel (November 2009).
Joslyn was dx'ed with Silent Reflux with breath apnea at 5 days old. VERY SCARY!
Katelyn is a spitter reflux baby. Started at 3 days old as well. (Both were/are breast fed.. symptoms came on when my milk came in).
Joslyn has been reflux free since she was 12 months (suffered poor weight gain for a few months) and Katelyn is now on Zantac... waiting to see if it works.
no she will take a bottle w/out a problem.
Sep 30, 2008
ethan's mom
Meridith, mom to Ethan born 4/23/08. Ethan was diagnosed with reflux at about 1 month. He has been on Zantac (unsuccessful) and Prevacid. He is currently taking 7.5 mg of Prevacid 2x per day, with good results. We also suspect MPI, though this hasn't been confirmed by a doctor yet.
Ethan is mostly breastfed, though we are doing one bottle of soy formula each day. We also do some homeade "solids' including, so far pears, avocado, sweet potato, and peaches.
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I didn't mention this before, but we also had more success when I eliminated dairy. This stopped the excessive gassiness, and the frothy stools. I completely eliminated it for a couple of weeks, and now a couple of times per week, I seem to be able to get away with having a little bit. (pizza with cheese, a cheeseburger, etc., but not a glass of milk)
I'm not sure about what to do if Joslyn nurses from both sides at each feeding. We tried it when Ethan was much younger, so he didn't really have awareness that there was an option, I don't think. I don't know if she would cry too much, but maybe you could feed her for the 4-5 minutes on the one side, stop the feeding, distract her for a little while, and then offer her the same breast again for another 4-5 minutes or whatever. It seems like you only need to work on the overactive letdown for a ocuple of weeks before the problem is better, then you can nurse as you normally would again.
I'm not really sure on any of this, but I hope it helps in some way. :)
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doctor first!