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Sep 19, 2008
emibug
Kathryn, Pager Volunteer and mommy to Emily Mia 02/04/07. 3 years old with GERD. 30mg Prevacid and Pepcid AC. Mylanta needed for flares. Failed prilosec med switch. Tried and failed many med weans but GERD and pain are well controlled. Functional constipation. Reoccurring SBBO. Suspected IBD or autoimmune disease. Resolved issues: MSPI, CSID (acquired), Stage 2 kidney reflux, Chronic diarrhea.
Audrey Meadow 06/20/08. born 34/35 weeks. Still b/f and eats everything! ftt and chronic constipation.
tell me what you think
i have recently been hanging out with a neighbor girl my same age who's dd is 7 months older then emily. The girls have become fast friends

while talking with this girls mom i found out that she was very much like emily- screamed all the time as an infant, hated when other people held her, was up all night, hated tummy time ect.... and now this little girl at 27 months throws tantrums JUST LIKE emily. I witnessed one the other day where she threw herself on the ground and purposely hit her forehead on the floor just like what emily does.

so i asked her about her dd's tantrums. i asked her if her dd had spit up as an infant or burped a lot or was extra gassy or treated for AR (things that emily did) she said no to all those things she said that she thinks her dd is just high needs and spoiled. it got me thinking...

I have this shred of doubt in the back of my mind that these actions emily does may not be pain related at all and that the mylanta was just a diversion not a solution. I am not calling my friend a bad parent at all, but maybe my lack of coping skills when emily does these tantrums is to blame?? I am always calm i let her freak out i give her space b/c interfering makes it worse but other then that i don't know what to do.

on the flip side emily had a huge tantrum when we went to the mall today, granted we don't get out much(I can't remember the last time we went somewhere besides gma's and walmart) maybe she was over excited? BUT she also had a few french fries from McDonalds, a few starw and blue berries from their parfait and 1.5 banannas and a 1/2 sippie of diet sierea mist today; all things that upset her tummy...but how do you explain her actions on days she doesn't have this stuf???

I know she is approaching her terrible twos but how probable do you REALLY think this pain=tantrum thing really is. Truth welcome (as long as it is friendly and constructive) :)
Sep 19, 2008
katiesmommy
Tracey, mom to Katie. Diagnosed with reflux at 3 weeks and put on Zantac. At 8 months old she was removed from Zantac as it was giving her migraines, currently on Prevacid. Switched to Elecare since she is not gaining weight; trialing solids after being off for a month. Geneticist said reason she isn't gaining weight is she is stubborn. Upcoming appts.: Neurologist for developmental delay and EGD scheduled for September. She is one funny baby!
Have you tried putting mylanta into something w/o her knowing it to see if that will help? Somedays Katie won't take it even though she needs it so I put it into some pears and she becomes a whole other child.
Sep 19, 2008
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Kat, it's really hard to say. I bet it could be a combo of pain and age. Why don't you try some new methods to deal with the tantrums from the perspective that it's just her age. Then if it gets better after a while, you'll know that it was at least partly just behavior issues. I'm around a lot of kids, but I can't compare. All kids act totally different at daycare than with mom. EVEN MINE! She's in the class I'm subbing in and she's terrible bc I'm there, but when I'm not there, they say they don't hear a peep out of her.

Any way, I'm rambling. I hope you understand this jibberish.

Sep 19, 2008
amber f
I would guess that it can't all be pain related. All kids around that age go through the tantram stage. Some more then others. Some of it can be pain related othertimes it can be from being tired. Most of the times it is about control. Kids feels like they has no control over anything in their lives. I have learned with my kids to let them have more choices so they don't throw a fit. Like do you want green beans or carrots and if they choose it they can't throw a fit over eating their veggies. This is just my opinion and I am not there with you so I could be way off. All children go through but it is esp. hard to discipline if you think she is in pain. (((HUGS)))
Sep 19, 2008
mom2halleyann
Donnessa, mom to Halley born 3/10/07
Reflux (mostly) resolved at 14 months
and Addison born 8/17/09. Currently exclusively bf and on 7.5mg Prevacid
Like everyone else, I think it may be a combination of age/discomfort. My sweet little baby is is turning into a miniature monster, so I feel your pain. At least it's supposed to be short term. I hope so, or I may have to send her to boot camp ;-).
Sep 19, 2008
mom2halleyann
Donnessa, mom to Halley born 3/10/07
Reflux (mostly) resolved at 14 months
and Addison born 8/17/09. Currently exclusively bf and on 7.5mg Prevacid
I forgot to mention - Halley's reflux has pretty much resolved, so I know the tantrums are not pain related. I think partially Emi's behavior is normal, if frustrating.
Sep 19, 2008
maggiemom
Maggie is now 3 years old and reflux free (knock on wood). I still check in some to see how everybody is doing :) Hugs to all!
Let me say (as the mother of a 9yr old girl) that it isn't just a short stage, lol. Morgan doesn't throw tantrums, but....wooo baby.
Sep 19, 2008
blueleopard
Pictured: G'mom w/3 kids. I'm mom to 1 angel Melissa (dec'd 11/92 - hypoplastic left-heart syn.)
2 healthy daughters (knock wood) Cory (16), Kim (11) & Eric (4) diagnosed with e.e. (scoped 8/08), GERD & severe food/seasonal allergies, asthma. Cried non-stop first 17 mths. of life Found out he is allergic to cow's milk, soy, eggs, and peanuts. Takes Prevacid, Neocate One Plus & Flovent.
I have two older girls & honestly they were practically angels - even through the "terrible twos." My son, however, is killing me with his behavior. I'm not quite sure if it's due to pain, him being a boy, his being spoiled, or his age (2 1/2). I am really leaning toward his medical conditions/food intake for that day or week as being the #1 cause of the outbursts. I wish we didn't have to wait so long until they can communicate effectively. Ellen
Sep 19, 2008
kmom
Worry Wart mom to
27 mo. reformed "happy spitter"
34.8lbs , 37in tall(oct)
Diagnosed A/R at 6 wks
Zantac until 1yr then Prevacid
Med free since February 08
peanut & egg allergies...still
Zoo Boo Trick-or-Treating (pic).
I agree that it is probably a combination. They don't have to be 2 to actually act like they are. The best thing I think you can do is treat her a/r and try to head the tantrums off at the pass. The only way I know to do that is make sure she is well fed and well rested. They go together: treat the A/R and there is a better chance of well fed and rested happening. Good luck.
Sep 20, 2008
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This might sound ridiculous, but for about a month every morning Meggy would pitch the most aweful fits. It didn't seem her norm personality or anything. During that time I began to journal on food and drink intake. Upon someone's suggestion I started giving her a couple ounces of juice before she did anything else in the morning. Bam-the irritability was gone and she was her normal playful self. I think her blood sugar drops.
Turns out it is the same at night. Just a little sugar-not much-she is a much calmer baby.
This is not always the way it works out. Sometimes she gets the sugar and still cries hours on end, like last night. Though last night she had corn starch without my realizing it.
I do believe some of it could be age related and testing limits. Many other parts of it could be food allergy, reflux or other medical related.
Sometimes Meggy will be playing all nice, innocent, and sweet. Suddenly she will drop what she is doing and start getting into everything. Climbing the baby gate, holding the handles to the fridge and climbing on top, climbing the chandelier, ect. When we remove her and talk to her about each thing she immediately breaks down into tears. IN this case we know she is over tired, and hurting. More often than not when we get her calm enough, we can hear loud gulping and see spasms in her tummy.
It is so hard to work on discipline knowing your little one is in pain, or could be in pain. I have learned that no matter what I have to be consistent. If she can't climb on the refrigerator today while she is feeling great, she can't do it tomorrow either when she is hurting so much.
Check with your
doctor first!