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Aug 04, 2008
michelle&aurora
Aurora born March 17, 2007
3 years, 8 months old
Weighs 25.8 lbs
8 lbs 11 oz at birth.
Recovered Chronic Projectile Vomiter
Prevacid Free since September 08
Egg allergy diagnosed Jan 26/09
Has a Pectus Excavatum
Has an Epipen
choking..WWYD?
Hi girls, I miss you all. Sorry I'm not around much lately. Even though I don't post much, I always have you all in my thoughts.

I have a new problem with Rory and want to pick your brains. :) I will be addressing this as well at the feeding clinic tomorrow. Rory is supposed to be strictly on purees (for calories) but I have kept her eating the things she will eat, for snack time, and allowing her to self feed. Snacks usually consist of some sort of deli meat (cubed), cheese (cubed), Gerber lil Crunchies (cheezies) and Arrowroot cookies.

Well, she's stuffing her mouth and choking on me. Literally, I have had to finger swipe her throat 4 times this week, 1 for a mouth stuffed with meat, one for cheese, one for crunchies, and one for half a friggin' cookie.

My questions are: What would you do in this situation? Do I disallow self-feeding knowing daycare is coming and feed her her snacks myself? Do I just do purees and deny the foods she loves? All of her purees are currently made with a canned soup base....do you think this is bad for her? How do I teach her NOT to stuff her face?

I know I can be overdramatic sometimes, but I swear, today I had to stuff my fist down her throat and pull out TWO WHOLE Gerber Crunchies....Mike was pounding on her back and I was like, "swipe, swipe!!!!" and he didn't know what I was talking about....I'm terrified she is going to choke in daycare and no one will be watching. I'm pretty sure the clinic is going to ban her from these foods. How sad will that be??? What the h*ll will I feed her then????

Aug 04, 2008
amber f
Hey Michelle~ I'm sorry she is choking. That has to be so scarey. One thing I have started to do with Nolan and I'm not sure how it will work for you is to not cut up his food really tiny. Like I will give him a banana half instead of cutting it up small. I have noticed if I give him chunks he just swallows them whole and then gags and pukes them up. We had an issue with watermelon recently to. So I gave him a good size chunk and he'll take bites out of it instead of swallowing it whole. The thing with the meat and cheese and lil crunches though you can't really do this so I don't know if I am much help. All the times Nolan was choking and gagging too he would vomit so I don't know if his gag reflux is sensitive.

I don't know what the clinic will say but it would stink if she had to give up her favorite snack foods:( Poor girly. Update when you can on the appt.

Aug 04, 2008
mom2halleyann
Donnessa, mom to Halley born 3/10/07
Reflux (mostly) resolved at 14 months
and Addison born 8/17/09. Currently exclusively bf and on 7.5mg Prevacid
Halley has just started doing this recently - she takes whole handfuls of stuff and shoves it in her mouth. It's terrifying. I know this would a total pain, but could you only put down a couple of pieces of food at a time? If you figure out a good solution, please post it, because I'm in the same boat.
Aug 04, 2008
mommyto2
BRANDON-Zantac and Bethanacol; Neocate formula, 2 sets of ear tubes, Adnoids removed, Vasomotor Rhinits, Asthma. Currently on: Xyzal, Omnaris, Flovent and Xopenex,
AUBREY-Zegerid 2x a day, Soy Milk, Tubes put in and adnoids removed (11-7), Hypotonia, ECI therapy for low muscle tone throughout trunk and hips, oral motor issues and sensory integration issues, delayed speech, Teething, probiotics
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The only other thing I can think of is to many only put 1 or 2 pieces on her tray at at time and she can't put so much in her mouth. I would love to hear what you find out at the feeding clinic tho.
Aug 04, 2008
michelle&aurora
Aurora born March 17, 2007
3 years, 8 months old
Weighs 25.8 lbs
8 lbs 11 oz at birth.
Recovered Chronic Projectile Vomiter
Prevacid Free since September 08
Egg allergy diagnosed Jan 26/09
Has a Pectus Excavatum
Has an Epipen
Thanks Ladies!! I'm going to have to just put down a couple pieces at a time. It IS a pain, but it's better than her choking. I liked snacktime because I didn't have to be so "involved", but she's putting a stop to that.

Amber, I tried giving her bigger pieces but she doesn't understand the concept of biting off pieces...I tried this with a tiny, finger-sized piece of bread and she stuffed the whole thing in...maybe I have to spend more time teaching her to take bites. Do you have to teach babies to do that? I just assumed they knew how instinctively...is that dumb?

I'm glad to know the other babies are doing this too...okay, that sounded bad, what I mean is, that it's a normal developmental thing, right?

When she choked on the crunchies, she was eating them off the coffee table....I should probably stop doing that too, right? Man, I just wish there was a magic "fix"....

Aug 04, 2008
kmom
Worry Wart mom to
27 mo. reformed "happy spitter"
34.8lbs , 37in tall(oct)
Diagnosed A/R at 6 wks
Zantac until 1yr then Prevacid
Med free since February 08
peanut & egg allergies...still
Zoo Boo Trick-or-Treating (pic).
I used to cut his food up really small. I also used to give him a couple at a time but that was more because he threw his food on the floor for a year. Thankfully that stage has passed!
Aug 04, 2008
michelle&aurora
Aurora born March 17, 2007
3 years, 8 months old
Weighs 25.8 lbs
8 lbs 11 oz at birth.
Recovered Chronic Projectile Vomiter
Prevacid Free since September 08
Egg allergy diagnosed Jan 26/09
Has a Pectus Excavatum
Has an Epipen
That's the thing, everything is cut really really small. Maybe she's putting it all in because she's hungry but doesn't know what to do with once its in there. She'll literally bite off half a cookie and expect to swallow it whole. crazy kid!!!
Aug 04, 2008
jenrackley
PAGER Volunteer Services Coordinator
Nutritionist
Melina 7/24/02 now reflux free!!
TWINS:
Ella 5/3/05 GERD, asthma, hypotonia, food intolerances, esophagitis, IBS //
Ava 5/3/05 asthma, food allergies
Pic: My girls! They are getting so big!
Mine did that too!!! It used to scare the tar out of me. I hated that. I used to put a few pieces out at a time. I also would sternly tell them "no no" when they put too much in but you may not want to do that with Rory since you need her to eat as much as possible. Thankfully it was a short lived phase for my girls and they quit doing it soon. Hopefully Rory will get bored with that soon too. FYI, mine did tend to do it more when I waited until they were starving to feed them. kwim? If they ate before that they tended to eat a bit more slowly. HTH.
Aug 04, 2008
mom2halleyann
Donnessa, mom to Halley born 3/10/07
Reflux (mostly) resolved at 14 months
and Addison born 8/17/09. Currently exclusively bf and on 7.5mg Prevacid
I have tried it both ways - larger and smaller pieces. If I give Halley large pieces, she shoves the whole thing in her mouth and if I give her small pieces, she just figures there are more things she can jam in her mouth at once. Also, I don't see a big difference in her habits whether I have her in a high chair or sitting in the middle of the living room floor, so I definitely think it's a developmental thing (although it is raising my blood pressure LOL!). Let us know what the feeding clinic says.
Aug 04, 2008
amber f
To answer your ? Michelle I have never had to teach a kid to take bites. I think it is an instinct in most kids but Rory is already delayed with food so maybe that skill will come later. I have had to stand by a child and tell them that was enough in their mouth or say chew it up good. I think a lot of kids go through this phase. But some of the kids at daycare have had a choking scare and start to put cause and effect together. That is usually when they start to pay attention to their eating.
Aug 04, 2008
jedd'smommy
Jessica, Mommy to Jedd, severe reflux, severe food and oral aversions, Finally G tube free!!! VSD repair 4-24-07 (open heart surgery), hypospadias, repaired 3 times and Ear tubes Visit Jedd at his CB site: www.caringbridge.org/visit/jedd
Some children do what is called "pocketing" Where they shove all the food in and pocket it in one cheek kinda like a chipmunk does. It sounds like that may be what she is doing. Like you siad, she doens't know what to do with it so she "pockets" it.

I pray the clinic will give you guidance on what to do.
Aug 04, 2008
mom2coy
Coyle Eagan. One Year Old. Doing well on Cow's Milk flavored with juice :) Drinking two bottles of Go&Grow daily. Eating solids better but still have rough days. No More Silent Reflux-that I can hear anyway.. but puking again. Zantac 2ML 2X daily.
coy does it do sometimes. but, i don't think it is "choking" in as much as it is gagging. like some others have said babies are really, really good @ protecting their airway. if you don't finger swipe does she gag it back up and then chew properly? this is what coy does. oh, and i've also started putting less on the tray because he shoves too many in his mouth or ends up throwing them to the dog. HTH. hope the clinic can give some good advise for ya!
Aug 05, 2008
lorenzomama
Lorenzo b.4/25/07 1 week in NICU w/ aspirate pneumonia from a reflux episode; diagnosed GERD at 9weeks; Used Zantac for 5months. Currently using Chinese Medicine and Craniosacral Therapy. GERD, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Sensory Processing Disorder. Ask me about breastfeeding a refluxer! Pic: day 5 in the NICU.
Sorry this is going on for you guys. WE have choking issues a lot around here too. One thing I wanted to let you know is that the current training in CPR recommends NO SWIPING due to the risk of damage by the blindly swiping finger/fingernail... Just FYI. Lots of people still do the swipe, partly because it's kind of instinctual to try to reach in there, but it's worth being educated about why the change in training was introduced... I hope the limited amounts at a time works for her!
Check with your
doctor first!